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This forum is for you to share ideas and exchange feedback with Mountaineers members, guests, volunteers, and leadership. You may vote for or comment on any forum idea and will be notified of status changes to that idea. Your feedback helps us prioritize projects and improvements for our organization. We receive lots of great ideas, so please search the forum first before adding a new one. If your idea is not yet in our forum, please post it with a simple title and an explanation of your idea and how it benefits The Mountaineers. If you want to learn more about what has already been developed and what is up next, please visit our Technology Blog. Thank you for your participation!

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  1. Add Kilometres to the "Length Units" on the posting activity page.

    We should have this option- we can post the km on the Pace. It makes absolutely no sense that we can't post the distance of the pace they are moving at with the same measurement
    Maybe we should get onto the '70s and make this an option?

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    0 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Thanks for sharing your idea. Unfortunately, we need to decline this. As the overwhelming majority of our courses take place in the United States, where the standard unit of measurement is the imperial system, we’ve designed the website to work within this system. We do not have capacity to expand to kilometres at this time.

  2. Link Green Trails Maps Purchase to Activities & Courses Listings

    Populate course and activity listings with Green Trails map purchases in parallel with Mountaineers Books listings. Why? 1) Facilitate, encourage carrying hard copy topo maps. 2) Support Books efforts to recover lost revenue

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    0 comments  ·  Books  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Thanks for the suggestion! There are roughly 900 Routes & Places that need to have one or more Green Trails Maps added. While we do not have enough staff resources to update the all these Routes & Places in one “push,” we will work on updating them as we edit and add new Routes & Places.

    We have the Routes & Places: Data, Statistics, Photo Finder Google Sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cY1RLAmAG5674lJPwppzWYkRwyZT_PcmTHOcNwx3hAE/edit?usp=sharing) that can be used to find Routes & Places that may need updates. Though built to support a “photo finder,” all the field from the website are included, and there is a “Green Trails Map Needed?” field, fields for the number activities that use a route/place in a few different timeframes (e.g this year, last year), etc.

    Feel free to download this Google sheet and use it to look for Routes & Places that would benefit the most from…

  3. Multiple Blog Authors

    Allowing for multiple blog authors would be a great way to recognize all volunteers who contribute to a piece.

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  4. Badge Rosters Access

    To implement the new climbing leader progression (as well as the recently updated snowshoe leader progression), please give committee admins access to edit leader badge rosters. While there's a very small risk that someone could accidentally remove a person from a different branch from a badge roster, that's simple to fix. (note: if it can be possible to manager leader badges via the committee roster, that would also be a workable solution).
    Thanks!

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    0 comments  ·  Rosters  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Much like the “Access to Badge Rosters” idea, http://feedback.mountaineers.org/forums/273688-general-feedback/suggestions/6746686-access-to-badge-rosters, we have declined this idea.

    The practical constraints are that badge rosters are a compilation of other rosters managed through different avenues. Meaning course admins can grant badges through their course rosters by graduating students, and committee admins manage leader badges through their committees. We recognize that some committees need to assign more than one leader badge and that not all leaders get the same badge(s). We have the “Multiple Badges Within a Committee” idea, http://feedback.mountaineers.org/forums/273688-general-feedback/suggestions/37059466-multiple-badges-within-a-committee-gh2933, for this.

    The technical constraints are that (1) adding sharing permissions was partly broken in the Plone 5 update—fixing it is at least a small project, and (2) badge roster pages have issues that need fixed for them to be used for this.

    One option to relieve staff from having to add leaders to badge rosters and until the “Multiple Badges Within a…

  5. Alphabetical sort for rosters has disappeared

    Before the May plone update committee, course and activity rosters could be sorted by name which was very helpful when comparing rosters and trying to find peoples names to manage rosters. Right now when you have a roster for over 12 people it becomes more difficult to manage rosters. Hopefully since we used to have this functionality it can be fixed soon.

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  6. Add "Online Classroom" and "Hybrid" as filter options for courses.

    In this time of Covid19, make it easier for users to sort/filter by distance learning options.

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  7. Fix committee/roster visibility for committee members to where it previously was

    Prior to the latest website update, any committee member was able to click on a committee link on their profile to go to the roster for their committee and also to see the roster for their committee even if they weren't an admin. This functionality has been lost with the update and many committee members found this extremely helpful even if we didn't need full admin privileges. As just one important aspect of this functionality, this is the only way to find one's fellow committee members and send an email to everyone. Would be great for this to be fixed…

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  8. Add our COVID Code of Conduct to website GH 3445/3446/3447/3450/3455

    Add text acknowledging our COVID Code of Conduct, including a link to the reference page(s), to the event/activity creation page and the registration pop-up. Also add a note about the Code of Conduct to the top of all event and activity listings.

    Add donation requests to free activities and events.

    Better emphasize donation request in checkout process.

    Add "Include credit card fees" for donations.

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  9. Fix the Mountaineers email utility so that emails will successfully send to all addresses

    When I use the 'send email' function with a large event, every time there are 5 or 6 people who don't receive the email and also don't find it in their junk mail. This becomes very frustrating for me and for them! If we offer this function it would be great if it worked for all domains.

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    0 comments  ·  Rosters  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We have done and are doing all we can to ensure our email delivery and reputation. Unfortunately there’s no way to guarantee that every email we send will be delivered.

    We have found that ISPs (Internet Service Providers) like Comcast/Xfinity and Earthlink are often the email providers with the most deliverability issues. We recommend using email providers that are NOT also ISPs. Some examples are Microsoft (outlook.com, live.com, msn.com, etc.), Google (gmail.com), and Yahoo (yahoo.com), but there are many others.

  10. Road and parking conditions at trailhead

    This idea is to address via the Mountaineers website a forum or better way of organizing info on trailhead parking, access road conditions, and trail conditions, the concept would be to have an easy convenient way for trip leaders and/or participants (plus any Mountaineers member doing a private trip) to have a central location where they would post information on the status of the trailhead access road, and how much snow or mud there is on the trail, which is always a question mark during the Spring and early Summer.

    Currently the only method I am aware of is to…

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    0 comments  ·  Events  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Thanks for sharing your idea. We currently encourage our members to share trip reports after their trips, and they are prompted to report on things like trail and road conditions. All of our routes and places also link to the websites for local land managers, which often have the most updated information on these specific locations. We would love to see more trip reports on our website, and will continue to encourage our members to do so, and we encourage the use of the linked resources already available to assess conditions.

  11. Develop Support for Non-English Script

    Currently our website rosters and the mailings we send do not support non-English scripts. Our members would like for their names, written in their native languages, to display correctly.

    More information from Super Volunteer Ananth Maniam:

    When participants Sign up for my trip and on mailers sent to my home and when leaders email back to me. My contact name comes like below
    Ananth Maniam (??????? ??????)

    This is because the (?????? ?????) are supposed to be my native script
    Ananth Maniam (ஆனந்த் மணியம்)

    This feature sometime works when I print roster - It works, it doesn't work when participants…

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    We would very much like to implement this, and right now technical constraints make it nearly impossible. Most platforms require its owners to choose a single language (keyboard layout), for which we were required to choose English for our website (which operates on a Plone Platform). Right now, in some places, non-English text is supported, but it varies and we do not have control. The biggest issue is when we export things to our Salesforce CRM, which translates everything as plain text and thus only accepts English characters. Until our platforms are updated more broadly to accept more than one keyboard, we’re stuck with using the U.S. English language/layout. In the meantime, we encourage you to use the Bio field in your profile to celebrate your culture, heritage, or history.

  12. Fix incident report excel export bug

    The incident report exports narratives in HTML. Change to plain text format. Example:

    <p>At 1:10 pm 1.5 miles from the trail head on the Spray Park Trail (heading back to Mowich Lake), participant tripped on a root and ended up bumping her brow bone on another root.  Student did not present with any signs of head trauma, the bump site swelled to approximately 2.5 cm in diameter and no bleeding was noted.  Patient reported minor discomfort, no current medications.  Applied a cold compress with bandana soaked with cold creek water and continued to hike out.  Patient still retained normal mentation…

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    6 comments  ·  Safety  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    The way the report renders currently is not a bug. It is how rich text data is stored in the file of completed forms. Rich text allows those filing a report to be able to use simple formatting to add things like paragraph breaks in the narratives. Changing the Incident Narrative and Lessons Learned fields from Rich Text to Plain Text would be a huge step backwards, making it much harder to collect good data.
    This rich text only affects the data file download. There are two other sources of submitted incident reports, (1) the emailed report submission, and (2) the stored report submissions. Both of these are nicely formatted and easy to read.
    Because it’s raw data, it should be relatively easy to turn the downloaded file into one nicely-formatted document with any number of tools. One simple approach is to use the “mail merge” capability in the Word…

  13. Improve more+ button

    From feedback, it appears that many people fail to notice the "more+" button in activities, especially on cellphones. Because they don't see it, they don't read all the important info in leader's notes. The More+ button should be more prominent...possibly a brighter, solid color button? Better yet, how about all the info about the trip expanded so it's never missed?

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  14. Ptarmigan winter observations request

    Goat Peak above Mazama had Ptarmigan in the 1980s when I used to lead cross-country helicopter assisted ski tours. The single nature article in the winter issue of the Mountaineer Magazine, which I get online so it's hard to read, requested this feedback. As a retired national park ranger-naturalist and heli-ski guide, of course I appreciate almost any nature content, and encourage more.

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    0 comments  ·  Feedback Surveys  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Thank you for your support of the ptarmigan and citizen science efforts. While directly working with scientists is outside of the scope of our mission, we are happy to promote these efforts when possible. For that reason we published the ptarmigan citizen science article in our Winter 2020 issue of Mountaineer. That article was also turned into a blog which now lives on our website: https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/citizen-science-white-tailed-ptarmigan-ghost-birds-of-the-winter-cascades. A link to the blog is cross posted in our Virtual Education Center as well to continue to encourage people to engage: https://www.mountaineers.org/courses/virtual-education-center#conservation-advocacy.

  15. Goal Oriented Course Sequence Training Plans

    Hello Mountaineer Community!

    I'm new to the club, so forgive me if this question has either previously been asked or if the answers currently already exist.

    Would it be possible to have a recommended course & activity sequence plan that was goal oriented? For example: I would like to climb Mt. Rainier. What courses and activities would be best to position me for such an attempt, and in what sequence?

    From what I've seen many of the classes act as stand alone training and education programs with some degree of overlap to ensure critical skill coverage.

    Anyway, I just thought…

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    0 comments  ·  Courses, Clinics & Seminars  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Thanks for sharing your idea. The information you’re looking for is offered in various places on our website, mainly within the Course Overview and Activity Overview pages. Specifics can also be found on course pages. If you’ve taken a look around and can’t quite find what you’re looking for, please contact our member services team at info@mountaineers.org.

  16. Give site admins permission to 'remove' people from rosters. GH3329

    In order to prevent folks who have been canceled from moving back to the top of the wait list as a result of their original registration time (this happens in CHS often), allow staff to 'remove' the person from the roster. This will mean they receive a new registration time every time they move from 'canceled' to 'wait listed'.

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  17. Password Change/Reset GH3322

    I was trying to change my password and couldn't figure out how despite looking at profile settings and searching for 'change password' on the site. In the end, I emailed info@mountaineers and found out that you have to use the forgotten password flow to do so.
    It seems like most sites have a 'change password' feature in the 'profile' section. It would be great to have a way to do so on the site. Alternatively, publishing a page about that might be helpful if people do search for it.

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  18. Allow "Requested Info" field to be either required or optional during participant registration

    Add the option to either the "Requested Info" is required or optional when a participant register an activity, clinic or seminar. Currently this field is optional and participant can still register if this field is not filled up.
    This option should be applied where ever the "Requested Info" is available when the item is created or edited.

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  19. Climbing leaders need a course in basic geology, see West Ridge Cuttroat report.

    Mass wasting, the geological term, should not include Mountaineers.
    When I used to guide and teach climbing professionally, I would ask my clients and students to consider how all those rocks in the scree and talus slopes got there. Later as national park ranger, it became obvious that ignorance of basic geology was widespread, as evidenced by the body bags included with our gear.

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    Great suggestion Eric. As a volunteer-run organization, the content of our courses is determined by volunteers. We’ve had a number of sessions on local geology offered in the past, and would certainly support more in the future (ex: https://www.mountaineers.org/locations-lodges/olympia-branch/committees/olympia-hiking-backpacking-committee/course-templates/geology-in-your-own-backyard-olympia/activity-templates/geology-in-your-own-back-yard). The best way to ensure this curriculum is included is to work with the climbing committee at your branch, and while we cannot require this of our climb leaders, we can certainly encourage them to learn more about the natural world in addition to their climbing and leadership skills training.

  20. Pre-orders & Backorders: Better Handle Failed Credit Card Transactions GH3285

    When the nightly delayed orders process runs, nothing is done with those with failed credit cards as best I can tell. I am not sure what's best to do here, but I think the options are:


    1. Cancel the backorder and update the Salesforce opportunity's Stage to Online Credit Card Problem.


    2. Mark the pre-order or backorder as Credit Card Declined on the website and Online Credit Card Problem in Salesforce, and add a "Buy Now" button/link for the customer to move the item, shipping address, and shipping method to the "regular" shopping cart and take them to the checkout page.


    Any…

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