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  1. Add Title Choices to Routes & Places for Use with Activities GH1476

    To make it easier to better title activities where the route place has broadly varying options and alternatives, provide a list of alternate location names that may be used.

    Specifically, when scheduling an activity allow the leader to choose an alternate title from an "Alternate Route/Place Title" list that is populated from a route/place "Route/Place Titles for Activity Titles" list.

    Here's an example:

    For a scramble of "Silver, Tinkham & Abiel Peaks," https://www.mountaineers.org/explore/routes-places/silver-tinkham-abiel-peaks, the activity title currently is and by default after implementing this idea would be:

    Alpine Scramble - Silver, Tinkham & Abiel Peaks

    Alternate activity titles with…

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    0 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We now have the ability to have alternate titles for routes/places that have a couple different destinations but all use the same access and thus we wouldn’t want two different Mountaineers groups there on the same day.

    An example is Snow & Gem Lakes. This trip can now simply be titled Gem Lake or Snow & Gem Lakes. Or if you are only climbing Tinkham and Silver Peaks you can now pick just those two peaks even though the listing has Silver, Abiel & Tinkham Peaks.

    The ability to switch to an alternate title is in the Route/Place tab when you are in the activity edit form while scheduling or editing an activity. It’s the same place you’d edit the date or choose a new route/place for the activity.

    Please note that this alternate title is not supposed to replace the summary. For example the title is not Gem Lake…

  2. Three day head start for basic students who don't yet have 3 climbs

    Good afternoon Jeff,

    Jim Nelson asked that I get in contact with you about a website feature we would like to explore in support of the Basic Climbing Course. We would like for the website to be able to flag Basic Course students who have not yet completed three climbs and give them a three-day head start in signing up for Basic climbs. As soon as a student has three successful climbs, the flag comes off and they have the same priority in signing up for climbs as prior-year Basic course graduates.

    This change addresses two long-simmering concerns:

    1. It…

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    1 comment  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Declined  ·  Garrett Arnold responded

    Hi Climbers,

    Thanks for posting your suggestions on the feedback site. This has been an issue for many years, and this is not a problem with a technology solution – at least not right now (take a look at another Feedback idea with a healthy number of votes in opposition to pre-filling rosters before a trip is posted- http://feedback.mountaineers.org/forums/272594-leaders/suggestions/6939679-future-activity-sign-up-dates-modifying-registrat).

    Every option proposed has implications for every activity across the entire organization. If we allow trip rosters to be filled with students, we limit the availability of roster spots for course graduates like basic climbing students (who will leave The Mountaineers when climbs aren’t available to them). Whether we decide to favor students over general membership is a policy decision that needs to be made at a higher level in the organization, not by staff or a single committee. Because website/technology solutions apply to every activity we offer we need…

  3. Improve Activity Edit Form (sea kayak fields plus pace)

    We re-ordered fields to make more sense when listing the activity. Improved and added help text to some of the fields.

    We added three fields for kayakers, maximum wind, maximum waves and maximum current. We also added a free form field for pace of the activity.

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  4. Leader "Difficulty" Rating Default to Blank GH2331

    Currently when listing a new activity, the "Leader Rating" field defaults to "For Beginners (Getting Started Series)" There are cases where a trip is NOT for beginners, but the leader never changed their rating. Can the Leader Rating default to blank, and require the leader to select one of the options rather than default to For Beginners?

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  5. Allow us to list multiple routes-places for different activity types or difficulty levels to the same locale

    We've been told that we have to use a generic route-place for an activity going to a particular locale even if that generic route-place is a poor fit to what we plan to do and may turn off potential participants. For example, a route-place may be listed as a scramble or climb and I want to list a hike or backpack there - it will show up in the activity search as a scramble and hikers won't want to do it. Or sometimes a route-place is listed as a hike and I want to do it as a backpack but…

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    6 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Completed  ·  Garrett Arnold responded

    When creating new Routes/Places leaders now have the option of having multiple activities tagged as suitable activities for that Route. For example Marmot Pass can be listed as a Hike and a backpack and Table Mountain (baker) can be listed so it shows up in Skiing and in Snowshoeing.

    Additionally when a leader lists an activity for that route/place the activity will default to the mileage and elevation gain and route difficulty but leaders have the ability to change that mileage and elevation gain and difficulty to more accurately describe their specific trip.

    When searching for activities via the Find Activities under EXPLORE, the summary statement now shows to set one’s trip apart from other trips. The leader’s chosen difficulty also shows.

  6. Develop functionality for Activity Programs and Outings/Combos SD154/GH1639

    This is functionality much like that for courses for activity programs like Explorers and Venturing Crew, activity outings like Yosemite Climbing and "combo" activities like Hike & Stewardship and Cathedral Rock & Mount Daniel

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    5 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We added an “exclude participants from date conflict check” checkbox to activities to hold us until we can get to Activity Program and Outings. This is a staff only option, because for most activities we need a conflict check so that members and guests do NOT overbook themselves.

    If you need this, please send an email with a lino to the activity for which you need ti to info@mountaineers.org.

  7. add scramble category

    At the scramble summit, there was unanimous desire to be able to tag a scramble as rock or snow. I gave two suggestions and they didn’t seem to have a strong opinion one way or another.

    First: since Winter Scramble is under difficulty, just add Rock Scramble and Snow Scramble. They liked the simplicity of this and that if something is rock/snow you can just tag something as both. They did feel like its not truly a “difficulty” rating, so logically it doesn’t make a lot of sense under difficulty.

    Second: Add a “scrambling category”. The benefit here is that…

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    0 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    This is easy to do using “Rock Scramble” and “Snow Scramble” in the Difficulty field like we do "Basic Rock Climb and “Basic Glacier Climb.”

    We just need volunteers to add these to our scramble Routes & Places. Please send an email to info@mountaineers.org if you are interested in helping. Thanks!

  8. Display trail or route on route/place map GH2019

    While it would be a lot of work to populate initially, the question was raised at our committee meeting whether the map for a route/place could actually show the route, rather than just the start and end points. This could come from either a GPS track or from tracing it out on a map. Alternatively, there could be a place, like a "Materials" folder and tab for each route/place, where we could upload a GPX file with the route.

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  9. Have an option to display Learn items and Explore activities in one screen SD360

    If I want to see everything going on at all branches for both Explore (activities) and and Learn (courses/clinics/events) in (for example) Sea Kayaking there is not a straight forward way of doing this. I want to look ahead and decide what in the Sea Kayaking world I might like to do and have it all listed chronologically.

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    6 comments  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We just launched all of these changes:

    As part of “single activity courses,” we now show the new “single activity courses” in both Find Activities and Find Course, Clinics and Seminars.

    We have improved the site-wide search where one can find any kind of content and be able to filter that search on the type of content desire (e.g. activities, courses and/or events).

    More info about Single Activity Courses
    http://feedback.mountaineers.org/forums/273688-general-feedback/suggestions/6836270-create-a-new-course-content-type-better-suited-for

    More info about Site Search Improvements
    http://feedback.mountaineers.org/forums/273688-general-feedback/suggestions/7053736-improve-site-wide-search-sd360

    Also visit thew blog for these updates:
    https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/2-5-seminars-clinics-search-youth

  10. Beef up our route-place database to include all of the routes-places in the '100-best' books

    The system has such capacity for displaying our routes and places in an attractive and appealing way, with enough detail to know where the trailhead is and whether or not it covers the route or place that one wants to take. It seems a huge missed opportunity to let routes-places be submitted without even the most basic of descriptions other than the pure length and elevation gain, which doesn't tell us much. Yet I know that Member Services is deluged with route place requests that are so urgent that you hesitate to push back. I wonder if we might be…

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    We considered a site-wide volunteer initiative to continue improve our Routes & Places and then add to them, but have no one who has expressed interest in helping yet. Please contact us at info@mountaineers.org if you would like to help.

    Remember that you can always add a new route/place and send us updates and corrections to those that exist (using the link on each route/place).

  11. Youth registration checkbox for activities and courses GH2750/2751

    On activities when youth register, Please change:
    I have verified that a Qualified Youth Leader will be present for this activity, I meet the age and skill requirements, and I have permission to participate in this activity. Request Leader's Permission

    to:
    I have verified that a Qualified Youth Leader will be present for this activity,The youth registrant meets the age and skill requirements and has permission to participate in this activity. {Request Leader's Permission link}

    Also please add this checkbox to courses:

    I have verified that a Qualified Youth Leader will be present for this all course activities. The youth…

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  12. Reclassify Snowshoe Routes and Trips Using New S/T Rating System ~WebsiteOnly

    This posting is the result of 1) a few years of cross-branch discussions among the Snowshoe Programs of the various branches, and 2) email discussions with the Program Center about how to go about changing the rating system used to classify Snowshoe trips. The feedback we received from the Program Center was that the correct way to document our request for changing the website was to post the changed to feedback.mountaineers.org.

    The Snowshoe Programs of the various branches would like to change the way that Snowshoe Routes and Trips are rated so that each route/trip has a separate Strenuous and…

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    The website project needed to implement the new snowshoe S/T trip ratings is scheduled for work this spring/summer with the intent to be ready for the next season.

    We will need to provide new inputs for the revised snowshoe trip ratings, and your recommendations based on recently led or traveled trips is appreciated! We have created a Google spreadsheet to collect input. Please take a moment to share your recent insights on snowshoe trip routes.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G1wwT0scoS4LYk8BXsXY_BSoARfJxCRejB_HPcxx_N8/edit#gid=0

  13. Add a new Activity category called "Other".

    This could be a catch-all spot for new ideas that don't yet fit an established category. A good example is the Olympia Branch Gear Swap. It is desirable to run it as an Activity because: 1. The intent is to have sellers register and pay for tables. and 2. Folks have now been trained/accustomed to searching activities for things to do. Given the creative, entrepreneurial nature of members and branches, new ideas do come along and need an outlet, rather than be discouraged just because they are a square peg. Over time, examples that had persistence would become candidates for…

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    Declined  ·  Garrett Arnold responded

    For items like your Gear Swap, the proper category is an Event. Events can be set up to have people rsvp for a table or to simply attend. If we want to collect money connected to events we currently use Eventbrite. Event listings allow us to post the event in multiple calendars. Events can be easily downloaded to your personal calendar, and offer complete customization. We want to be able to market these cool new ideas and event listings allow you to have titles and text and photos how you want them rather than being stifled by the activity template listings.

    Activity templates do not have the same functionality as they include leader’s notes, mileage, etc. Trip specific categories don’t make sense for an event like the gear grab. The Event category also allows members to register guests without having to create a separate profile for a guest or have…

  14. Add a show activities from the past check mark box on courses

    It would be cool if the Course Requirements tab on the course detail page page included a checkbox labeled “_X_ Show activities from the past” and/or maybe a date range for activities that would be displayed.

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    1 comment  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    We can now enable faceted search for course “Activities” folders to allow course administrators to more quickly find particular course activities and more easily manage their courses.

    Please send an email to info@mountaineers.org if you’d like this feature enabled on any of your course’s “Activities” folders.

  15. Remove "Getting Started Series" from the Activity Leader Rating GH2781

    Its confusing to see "Getting Started Series" in the activity search results as an option when we no longer have a formal "Getting Started Series" program.

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  16. Please create two "outdoor leadership" activity types ~SFOnly

    In order to track what the mountaineers does in terms of outdoor leadership, we would like two activity types:

    Leader Development - Leadership Skills
    Leader Development - Technical Skills

    Below is the email thread for background:
    Here’s a really quick stab at some language, for nothing else than to give us something to edit:

    Leadership Skills
    - May or may not be activity-specific.
    - May or may not have a focus on outdoor leadership.
    - Emphasis on facilitation, instruction, and/or group leadership.
    -

    Technical Skills
    - Activity-specific.
    - Skill development in activity that this person leads or aspires to lead.…

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    1 comment  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    In Progress  ·  Tess Wendel responded

    Working on creating auto email confirmations for the member services team to update new clinics and courses appropriately in plone. And then working with education team to do some tagging in salesforce specific to technical versus leadership skills.

  17. Make it easier to view past Participation Notes for all Participants on a Roster GH2763

    From the activity roster it would be helpful to have a quick link to go participation notes. Right now its about 4 clicks from the activity to view someone's participation notes. This is tedious to do for 12 people on a roster. Viewing participation notes is helpful for trip planning and ensuring safety of a trip and mitigate any negative group dynamics.

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  18. Allow overlapping activities

    The website doesn't allow for overlapping activities, for example two 3-day climbs of the same summit which would summit and camp on different days.
    For example, one climb of a mountain could be on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and another climb could be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. One climb thus summits on Saturday, the other on Monday.
    Since there is no conflict of having two parties travelling along the same part of a route at the same time, the website should allow registration of activities that don't exactly overlap.
    A warning is probably still in order since the trip leaders must make…

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  19. Show waitlist participants to other registered participants

    I would like to see who is on waitlist for an activity I am registered for.

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  20. Capability to add text to an Activity title

    Allow the capability to add text to an activity title or add another field
    that is displayed in the Activity listing. An example is a sea kayak trip that is at night. It would be nice in the Activity listing for the activity to display "Sea Kayak - Sequim Bay - Night Paddle".

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    1 comment  ·  Activities  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Completed  ·  Garrett Arnold responded

    The first line of the activity summary is now being added to the listing in the Find Activities search so it will say Sea Kayak- Sequim Bay and then directly underneath it will be “Night paddle to observe full moon…”

    This allows our leaders to accurately describe their activity and put in a little special “marketing” to show that their paddle (or hike or backpack) isn’t just any old paddle around Sequim etc.

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