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1. Make end date of activity / event same as start date by default

   I have found that setting the end date can be a bit time-consuming, as it requires navigating the calendar a second time, especially when scheduling events far in the future.

   To make this smoother, would it be possible to implement two small changes?

   (1) Default the end date to match the start date. A large number of our activities are single-day events, so this would save a step for most postings. Currently, there is a warning that shows up if we missed this step - which would be solved by doing so.

   (2) For multi-day events, when a leader does click to change the end date, have the calendar picker automatically open to the start date's month.

   We (a few leaders conversing privately) think these adjustments would save a few steps and make the experience so much better for our leaders.

   Thanks for your consideration!

   I have found that setting the end date can be a bit time-consuming, as it requires navigating the calendar a second time, especially when scheduling events far in the future.

   To make this smoother, would it be possible to implement two small changes?

   (1) Default the end date to match the start date. A large number of our activities are single-day events, so this would save a step for most postings. Currently, there is a warning that shows up if we missed this step - which would be solved by doing so.

   (2) For multi-day events, when a leader does… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

   Hello KD -

   I believe we should be able to re-use the function that automatically sets set-up and departure datetime for events. We are in the middle of an iteration at the moment, but will move this to priority as I believe it will require minimal development. If we find that is not the case, we may need to move it back to new.

2. Allow setting start and end times, not just dates

   Currently, when an activity is created, you can put either one or multiple days, but cannot select the times. This is fine for hikes, which can have the date and time listed in the notes, but for meetings at the Program Center or other course activities that have multiple activities in one day, it would be beneficial to be able to set the timing for the activity as well.

   This could possibly also solve the problem of someone being unable to join a short hike in the morning of the same day that they have a zoom meeting at 7pm if both items use start/finsih times.

   Currently, when an activity is created, you can put either one or multiple days, but cannot select the times. This is fine for hikes, which can have the date and time listed in the notes, but for meetings at the Program Center or other course activities that have multiple activities in one day, it would be beneficial to be able to set the timing for the activity as well.

   This could possibly also solve the problem of someone being unable to join a short hike in the morning of the same day that they have a zoom meeting at 7pm… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

   This idea is moving to priority. At a minimum, we can look to see how our registration emails can be reformatted for phone/email providers to recognize the event for easy auto-saving.

3. Provide for small window of time for conflicting activities to allow member to choose between the two.

   The problem I experienced was that I was interested in a particular activity. I figured it would be a popular activity so I wanted to register as soon as the registration opened. When I tried to do that, I noticed the registration window was greyed out and I saw a message that I had a conflicting activity scheduled. I quickly went back to my list of activities and cancelled the one in conflict which had a waitlist of about 5 but I was a confirmed participant (of the two, my preference would have been for the new activity). In the short time it took to cancel the other activity, the new activity had already filled up so I could not register (could only get on waitlist). But now I had cancelled the other trip and lost my spot there. So now I have no activities for that day! Very frustrating. My idea is to allow a short window of say, one hour, that a person can have conflicting activities and they have to choose between them within that hour or the decision will be made for them. Not sure how this could be programmed in to be automated but it sure is frustrating to lose a spot. We should be able to choose between activities without risking losing out on both.

   The problem I experienced was that I was interested in a particular activity. I figured it would be a popular activity so I wanted to register as soon as the registration opened. When I tried to do that, I noticed the registration window was greyed out and I saw a message that I had a conflicting activity scheduled. I quickly went back to my list of activities and cancelled the one in conflict which had a waitlist of about 5 but I was a confirmed participant (of the two, my preference would have been for the new activity). In the… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

4. Allow leaders to set a later opening date for instructor/assistant sign up

   Allow activity leaders to set a later opening date for instructor/assistant leader sign up for an activity. Right now, you can only set a registration date for participants. Instructor opening date is automatically open as soon as the activity is on the website. This allows instructors/assistant leaders to sign up for activities potentially before the leader is ready for sign ups -- for instance, while a course is in the unpublished status, or when an activity is a backup date that the leader might not want to fill until the originally scheduled date is canceled. It would be better in such circumstances if the leader could set a later date for instructor/assistant leader sign up.

   Allow activity leaders to set a later opening date for instructor/assistant leader sign up for an activity. Right now, you can only set a registration date for participants. Instructor opening date is automatically open as soon as the activity is on the website. This allows instructors/assistant leaders to sign up for activities potentially before the leader is ready for sign ups -- for instance, while a course is in the unpublished status, or when an activity is a backup date that the leader might not want to fill until the originally scheduled date is canceled. It would be better in… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

   This idea is moving to priority.

5. Add more details to Activity/Course alert emails

   When a new activity alert is sent, it would be good to include more details such as summary, leader notes and description. There are many trips that are for a specific audience and it becomes tiring to click on all the trips and get disappointed to not find a trip to register for. Even if we can add a summary to them (as we now see in the find activities page on the website), we at the committee level can ensure the leaders and important info in the summary, especially if the trip is restricted to a specific audience.

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   When a new activity alert is sent, it would be good to include more details such as summary, leader notes and description. There are many trips that are for a specific audience and it becomes tiring to click on all the trips and get disappointed to not find a trip to register for. Even if we can add a summary to them (as we now see in the find activities page on the website), we at the committee level can ensure the leaders and important info in the summary, especially if the trip is restricted to a specific audience.

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

6. Self populating cell meet place and time

   Create a self populating cell that when you’re posting or developing your template for the activity, There’s usually several options to launch from, and the cell could populate on the condition when you select where you were going to launch from it tells you or populates the cell with the meeting place and have an option in the cell that allows for time inputs of meet time and launch time and maybe an option for pre-launch meeting time This would eliminate. This could eliminate the current meat, place and time box completely. Leader could have the notes in there and put whatever they want in there. They don’t even have to talk about that where it is and nobody can Short cut it. You could put the Cell under the information area like where it shows wind and currents right before participants size. So it’s right at the top when you open it and you see that it’s such and such Park. That’s where it is directly below the description that the leader puts in describing where they’re going and such. I’ll consider this critical. Might be an answer to the frustration leaders are having communicating information to prospective applicants

   Create a self populating cell that when you’re posting or developing your template for the activity, There’s usually several options to launch from, and the cell could populate on the condition when you select where you were going to launch from it tells you or populates the cell with the meeting place and have an option in the cell that allows for time inputs of meet time and launch time and maybe an option for pre-launch meeting time This would eliminate. This could eliminate the current meat, place and time box completely. Leader could have the notes in there and… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

7. Delayed Send for Auto Email for Activities/Events

   I like to hold off on sending emails until the 1-2 days before and the registration has been closed. These emails include things like my personal number, weather conditions, and overall serve as a reminder. Most people find accessing an email from a phone easier than accessing it from the website (and I don't want to include my phone number on postings).

   Sometimes the ideal time to send an email conflicts with other activities (ie I might be leading a conditioning hike or doing a race the night before a morning run). To get around this, I will sometimes send an email 2-3 days before, but then new people join and I don't get a chance to email them before the event.

   It would be great if I could input the email into the activity somewhere, schedule a time to send, it would auto-send on that specific date/time, then get send to any additional registrants who sign up after the originally scheduled time.

   I like to hold off on sending emails until the 1-2 days before and the registration has been closed. These emails include things like my personal number, weather conditions, and overall serve as a reminder. Most people find accessing an email from a phone easier than accessing it from the website (and I don't want to include my phone number on postings).

   Sometimes the ideal time to send an email conflicts with other activities (ie I might be leading a conditioning hike or doing a race the night before a morning run). To get around this, I will sometimes send… more

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

   This idea is moving to priority. At a minimum, we can look to see how our registration emails can be reformatted for phone/email providers to recognize the event for easy auto-saving.

8. Difficulty Label Changes

   The long-form of this proposal with better formatting and screenshots is here:
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vef3Nw-ulHzJdeKUhYSv95PX7FcAcigM7R2z6H5tn8g/edit?usp=sharing

   This is a copy-paste and loses formatting:

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   Problem
   All trips posted have a “Difficulty” rating and a “Leader Rating” value, but trip listings only display the Difficulty rating. Sometimes the difficulty of a trip is indicated by the combination of the difficulty field and the trip template. For example, an Intermediate Snowshoe is posted using an “Intermediate Snowshoe” template and will have a difficulty label to indicate how strenuous the trip is expected to be. Other activities, such as Cross-Country Skiing, indicate the trip difficulty solely through the difficulty label.

   There are some major problems with the website’s current approach to difficulty labels.

   There is a global list of difficulty labels for all activities
   Each place listing can have (and usually does have) a default value for difficulty. This means for places that support multiple kinds of activities, there will be multiple different labels here for each activity.
   This field auto-populates with the default for the place. Because it has a default, the trip leader is not required to look at or change this field and in the overwhelming number of cases, does not. This means that the trip will be listed with a bunch of confusing, irrelevant difficulty labels that participants find extremely hard to reason about.

   Other times, the default value is “Varies” and that gets carried through. In many many cases, using the default difficulty value is incorrect.

   Proposal
   I propose some changes that will better set our leaders up for success:
   Restrict Difficulty Values: Instead of maintaining a global list of difficulty labels, tie the list of possible difficulty values either to the trip template or the activity type. This way when the trip leader selects the field, they will only be given options relevant to the activity type.

   Activity Template
   Labels
   Day Hike
   Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous
   Alpine Scramble
   Strenuous 1-5, Technical 1-5
   Winter Scramble
   Strenuous 1-5, Technical 1-5, Winter Scramble
   Cross-Country Ski
   G-XC1-4 Groomed, U-XC1-4 Ungroomed
   Basic Snowshoe
   Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous
   Intermediate Snowshoe
   Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous
   Backcountry Ski
   M1 Intermediate, M2 Advanced, M2G Advanced Glacier, M3 Expert, M3G Expert Glacier
   Bikepacking
   Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous
   Basic Rock Climb
   Strenuous 1-5, Technical 1-5
   Basic Glacier Climb
   Strenuous 1-5, Technical 1-5
   Sea Kayak
   Sea Kayak I-VI
   Trail Running
   Easy, Moderate, Strenuous, Very Strenuous, Ultra, Advanced Ultra 1, Advanced Ultra 2

   Opt 1 - Template: Internally, this would mean that the template object would need a new field called “Difficulty Tags” (or something) that would include all of the possible difficulties. When creating a trip, the “Difficulty” field would work the same as it does today, except that the list of tags you are allowed to add is restricted to the possible difficulties from the activity template, rather than the global list it looks at today.

   Opt 2 - Activity Type: The above would require each activity template to have the difficulty field set the same. For example, all three Snowshoe activity templates would require you to go in and set the difficulty values to the same labels for each template. It might be more convenient to leverage the “Activity Type” field to get the list of possible labels. In that way, since all three snowshoe templates are already marked as “Snowshoeing” activity types, you would just need to associate “Snowshoeing” with the relevant tags to get the validation, and you would not need a template-specific list (instead you’d need a table linking activity type to the allowed tags).

   On trips, make Difficulty a required field and, in cases where there are multiple potential activities, do not attempt to set any default value. This will force leaders to put something here. An exception here would be when the place listing only has one difficulty rating (for example, a peak is only ever a scramble peak, so the default scramble rating is fine, or a sea kayak trip), but any place where there are a bunch of labels, they should probably be removed as the Difficulty default and moved into the route description, like this example from the website: Pinnacle, Plummer, Denman, Lane & The Castle — The Mountaineers

   This also makes sense given that many places have a bunch of routes that you select from the “Alternate Names” dropdown, and the odds that the default difficulty is correct for all of those routes is… low.

   An alternative you could consider would be to allow the difficulty field to remain for multi-activity types, but to prune the list when the template is used to erase any labels that don’t match the activity template or activity type.

   For example, consider Amabilis Mountain, which has labels for backcountry skiing, cross-country skiing, and snowshoeing.

   Difficulty: M1 Intremediate Ski, Strenuous, G-XC 4 Advanced Groomed, U-XC 3 Intermediate Ungroomed
   Depending on the template I use to post this, by cross referencing this field allowed value, I will get a different result, because any label that’s not in the allow list for the activity type would be removed.

   Snowshoe
   Strenuous
   Backcountry Ski
   M1 Intremediate Ski
   Cross-Country Ski
   U-XC 3 Intermediate Ungroomed, G-XC 4 Advanced Groomed

   While it’s still not perfect–cross-country ski still ends up with two default labels–it’s going to be more accurate overall than what someone would see today, which is just all four labels.

   While there is a link to “Activity Overviews” for this field, it would be nice if the template could have a custom link to the activity-specific page. For example, the Alpine Scramble and Winter Scramble templates would link to (Scrambling — The Mountaineers).

   Summary
   To require the fewest changes for maintainers, my recommendation would be:
   Associate the “Activity-Type” label with a list of “Allowed Difficulty” tags and make the dropdown for the “Difficulty” field look at the allowed tags. If there are multiple activity types, then union the list of allowed tags.
   Make “Difficulty” a required field (i.e. cannot be blank).
   Leave all default values alone. When a trip is posted from a template, validate the default values against the allowed difficulty tags and remove any that aren’t allowed. If the activity type is changed, re-validate and update the Difficulty field (for example, if I change Amabilis from a snowshoe to backcountry ski, the difficulty field should auto-update from Strenuous to M1 Intremediate Ski by virtue of the validation).
   Add the activity-specific link to the trip template (this is nice-to-have, but absolute lowest priority).

   The long-form of this proposal with better formatting and screenshots is here:
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vef3Nw-ulHzJdeKUhYSv95PX7FcAcigM7R2z6H5tn8g/edit?usp=sharing

   This is a copy-paste and loses formatting:

   ==========================

   Problem
   All trips posted have a “Difficulty” rating and a “Leader Rating” value, but trip listings only display the Difficulty rating. Sometimes the difficulty of a trip is indicated by the combination of the difficulty field and the trip template. For example, an Intermediate Snowshoe is posted using an “Intermediate Snowshoe” template and will have a difficulty label to indicate how strenuous the trip is expected to be. Other activities, such as Cross-Country Skiing, indicate the trip difficulty solely… more

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9. Develop functionality for Activity Programs and Outings/Combos SD154/GH1639

   This is functionality would be much like what we have for courses and would be for activity programs like Explorers and Venturing Crew, activity outings like Yosemite Climbing and "combo" activities like Hike & Stewardship and Cathedral Rock & Mount Daniel. We need to be able to group a few activities (and maybe a couple lodge stays) under one "umbrella" Outing and use a "manage registration" style feature to register for them and the Outing as a whole like we do for courses.

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   Priority  ·  AdminDevin Lampe (Technical Experience Manager, The Mountaineers) responded

   This idea is moving to priority. To learn more about the updated feedback status options and process, visit this blog: https://www.mountaineers.org/blog/new-technology-experience-manager-feedback-management-improvements